# How to use Virtual Router

**URL:** <https://forum.opennebula.io/t/how-to-use-virtual-router/2526>\
**Category:** Product Support\
**Created:** [July 8, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/how-to-use-virtual-router/2526 "2016-07-08T10:56:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![silbogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@silbogg](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/silbogg)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/how-to-use-virtual-router/2526/1 "2016-07-08T10:56:23Z")

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Hi there,

I’ve downloaded the alpine kvm virtual router appliance. And then created a VR. It’s connected to two VNETs. And now how do i use this VR? Defining forwarding rules or dhcp etc?

Here’s how my topology looks like:

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/opennebula/original/2X/7/7c10128428198f677f7b879da275b8dd827eca47.JPG)

Btw, in docs: [http://docs.opennebula.org/5.0/operation/network\_management/vrouter.html](http://docs.opennebula.org/5.0/operation/network_management/vrouter.html)  
the image for creating VR is different from my actual sunstone (5.0.1) . In the docs, VR is listed under Network however it is actually under Instances. It’d be better to update…

Kind Regards,  
Orhan

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**Author:** ![ruben](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/ruben/32/19_2.png) [@ruben](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/ruben)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 10:05am UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/how-to-use-virtual-router/2526/2 "2016-07-12T10:05:11Z")

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Forwarding should work out-of-the-box, if you want to place more services in the VR, you need to login and install/confgure them. You may want to use context to automate this process…

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**Author:** ![silbogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@silbogg](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/silbogg)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 11:53am UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/how-to-use-virtual-router/2526/3 "2016-07-12T11:53:21Z")

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So, if I get it right, there isn’t any (nat, dhcp, etc) configuration through sunstone (and wont be?) And so, it’s basically same with having a custom fw&router VM inside. It’s just moved under a new title with a new tag.