# Usage of 5.0 Market Places, will HTTP Market Place replace AppMarket? **URL:** \ **Category:** Product Support\ **Created:** [July 21, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611 "2016-07-21T12:14:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DaD](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/dad/32/8466_2.png) [@DaD](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/DaD)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/1 "2016-07-21T12:14:11Z")
Hello, Our 5.0 lab is running fine and I managed to create a new HTTP Market Place as describe in the documentation, but I have a little concern about its use: - Every OpenNebula instance which want to use this Market Place need SSH access to the server hosting the images which make it unusable as public Market Place for our users - Adding an Apps does not have a nice template wizard, only the `VM template` and `App template` with `ATTRIBUTE = "VALUE"`. It could be interesting to create an App from a VM template or a OneFlow service template. - The AppMarkets [are now depreacted](http://docs.opennebula.org/5.0/advanced_components/marketplace/market_one.html#overview) in favour of HTTP Market Place, but this one lakes some features like catalogues. I think the [OpenNebula AppMarket Add-on](https://github.com/OpenNebula/addon-appmarket) is just missing the upload to full fill our needs. Or maybe the HTTP Market Place will improve to get the missing features? Regards. ---
**Author:** ![ruben](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/ruben/32/19_2.png) [@ruben](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/ruben)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:13am UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/2 "2016-07-26T09:13:54Z")
> DaD [http://forum.opennebula.io/users/dad](http://forum.opennebula.io/users/dad) Daniel Dehennin > [http://forum.opennebula.io/users/dad](http://forum.opennebula.io/users/dad) > July 21 > > Hello, > > Our 5.0 lab is running fine and I managed to create a new HTTP Market > Place as describe in the documentation, but I have a little concern about > its use: > > - Every OpenNebula instance which want to use this Market Place need > SSH access to the server hosting the images which make it unusable as > public Market Place for our users > > Not really, the idea is that every zone has its own market place. This is > more like a distributed catalog. You can add then all the marketplaces (you > want, each one with its own ACLs potentially), and you’ll get a list of all > the apps in the app list. When a user wants to “publish” an image he has to create the zone where the image lives. > - Adding an Apps does not have a nice template wizard, only the VM > template and App template with ATTRIBUTE = “VALUE”. It could be > interesting to create an App from a VM template or a OneFlow service > template. > > Totally agree! > - The AppMarkets are now depreacted > [http://docs.opennebula.org/5.0/advanced\_components/marketplace/market\_one.html#overview](http://docs.opennebula.org/5.0/advanced_components/marketplace/market_one.html#overview) > in favour of HTTP Market Place, but this one lakes some features like > catalogues. > > I think the OpenNebula AppMarket Add-on > [https://github.com/OpenNebula/addon-appmarket](https://github.com/OpenNebula/addon-appmarket) is just missing the > upload to full fill our needs. > > Or maybe the HTTP Market Place will improve to get the missing features? Please open this requests in the dev portal, our efforts will concentrate on improving the new marketplace component as it is more integrated with OpenNebula. We also plan to add more app types (flows etc…) Thanks for your feedback! > ## Regards. > > Visit Topic > [http://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/1](http://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/1) > or reply to this email to respond. > > You are receiving these emails cause you have enabled mailing list mode. > > To unsubscribe from these emails, click here > [http://forum.opennebula.io/email/unsubscribe/7017833f4e54fd7bfe3b2519af59daf0d002ea151e145c1128ce01ce2d63e4ba](http://forum.opennebula.io/email/unsubscribe/7017833f4e54fd7bfe3b2519af59daf0d002ea151e145c1128ce01ce2d63e4ba) > . Ruben S. Montero, PhD Project co-Lead and Chief Architect OpenNebula - Flexible Enterprise Cloud Made Simple [www.OpenNebula.org](http://www.OpenNebula.org) | [rsmontero@opennebula.org](mailto:rsmontero@opennebula.org) | @OpenNebula ---
**Author:** ![DaD](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/dad/32/8466_2.png) [@DaD](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/DaD)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 11:12am UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/3 "2016-07-26T11:12:27Z")
“Ruben S. Montero” [opennebula@discoursemail.com](mailto:opennebula@discoursemail.com) writes: Hello, […] > > - Every OpenNebula instance which want to use this Market Place need > > SSH access to the server hosting the images which make it unusable as > > public Market Place for our users > Not really, the idea is that every zone has its own market place. This is > more like a distributed catalog. You can add then all the marketplaces (you > want, each one with its own ACLs potentially), and you’ll get a list of all > the apps in the app list. > > When a user wants to “publish” an image he has to create the zone where the > image lives. I may have misunderstood something, the HTTP Maket Place does not have the purpose to replace a public catalogue like [OpenNebula - Marketplace](http://marketplace.opennebula.systems/appliance)? So, to resume what I understood: - for all the OpenNebula I manage, I can add the same HTTP Market Place to share Apps between all my zones/clusters. - I can not use the HTTP Market Place to expose Apps to the outside world (not managed by me). For this, I need to setup the AppMarket addon. Is that right? […] > > - The AppMarkets are now depreacted > > [http://docs.opennebula.org/5.0/advanced\_components/marketplace/market\_one.html#overview](http://docs.opennebula.org/5.0/advanced_components/marketplace/market_one.html#overview) > > in favour of HTTP Market Place, but this one lakes some features like > > catalogues. > > > > I think the OpenNebula AppMarket Add-on > > [https://github.com/OpenNebula/addon-appmarket](https://github.com/OpenNebula/addon-appmarket) is just missing the > > upload to full fill our needs. > > > > Or maybe the HTTP Market Place will improve to get the missing features? > > Please open this requests in the dev portal, our efforts will concentrate > on improving the new marketplace component as it is more integrated with > OpenNebula. We also plan to add more app types (flows etc…) I opened one[1] to create an App from a template. Thanks. Footnotes: [1] [Request #4684: Create Apps from a template - OpenNebula - OpenNebula Development pages](https://dev.opennebula.org/issues/4684) Daniel Dehennin Récupérer ma clef GPG: gpg --recv-keys 0xCC1E9E5B7A6FE2DF Fingerprint: 3E69 014E 5C23 50E8 9ED6 2AAD CC1E 9E5B 7A6F E2DF ---
**Author:** ![ruben](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/ruben/32/19_2.png) [@ruben](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/ruben)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/4 "2016-07-27T15:26:20Z")
> [@DaD](#): > > I may have misunderstood something, the HTTP Maket Place does not have > the purpose to replace a public catalogue like > [OpenNebula - Marketplace](http://marketplace.opennebula.systems/appliance)? > > - I can not use the HTTP Market Place to expose Apps to the outside > world (not managed by me). For this, I need to setup the AppMarket > addon. Is that right? Yes, you are right. The new marketplaces (using any of its backends, http, s3,…) is aimed to replace the addon. Note also that the addon was intended to be used with in an organization and not to the outside world. Although you are right that the original addon does not require to federate zones. If this is your case, you can still use the addon in that mode and add a marketplace using the driver `one` > [@DaD](#): > > - for all the OpenNebula I manage, I can add the same HTTP Market Place > to share Apps between all my zones/clusters. Yes right, and as you said this may happen across zones. Cluster1 in zone1 and cluster2 in zone2… > [@DaD](#): > > I opened one[1] to create an App from a template. > > Thanks. > > Footnotes: > [1] [Request #4684: Create Apps from a template - OpenNebula - OpenNebula Development pages](https://dev.opennebula.org/issues/4684) awesome thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DaD](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/dad/32/8466_2.png) [@DaD](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/DaD)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/5 "2016-07-27T16:00:04Z")
“Ruben S. Montero” [opennebula@discoursemail.com](mailto:opennebula@discoursemail.com) writes: […] > Although you are right that the original addon does not require to federate zones. If this is your case, you can still use the addon in that mode and add a marketplace using the driver `one` I have some concerns about this addon, because the HTTP Market Place is aimed to replace it, will the addon-appmarket continue to be supported? For our users usage[1], federate zones is not really possible, so we definitely need a central place to host app template and images. We may want to make some contributions to addon-appmarket in some future to permit to upload images in addition to register app templates. I just need to convince our product owner 😉 > > [@DaD](#): > > > > - for all the OpenNebula I manage, I can add the same HTTP Market Place > > to share Apps between all my zones/clusters. > > Yes right, and as you said this may happen across zones. Cluster1 in zone1 and cluster2 in zone2… Ok, so the App definitions are shared by all federated zones, Thanks for the explanation. Regards. Footnotes: [1] [Request #3872: Managing hundred of remote OpenNebula in a central console - OpenNebula - OpenNebula Development pages](https://dev.opennebula.org/issues/3872) Daniel Dehennin Récupérer ma clef GPG: gpg --recv-keys 0xCC1E9E5B7A6FE2DF Fingerprint: 3E69 014E 5C23 50E8 9ED6 2AAD CC1E 9E5B 7A6F E2DF ---
**Author:** ![ruben](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/ruben/32/19_2.png) [@ruben](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/ruben)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/6 "2016-07-27T17:14:40Z")
> [@DaD](#): > > I have some concerns about this addon, because the HTTP Market Place is > aimed to replace it, will the addon-appmarket continue to be supported? > > For our users usage[1], federate zones is not really possible, so we > definitely need a central place to host app template and images. > > We may want to make some contributions to addon-appmarket in some future > to permit to upload images in addition to rlegister app templates. I just > need to convince our product owner 😉 Maybe we can evolve the current marketplace to allow anonymous access. This will impact on OpenNebula Auth subsystem ACLs and the like. Uploading will require authentication though. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![kthurvas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f1d935/32.png) [@kthurvas](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/kthurvas)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/7 "2016-11-09T14:55:12Z")
Sorry to hijack this thread, I am trying to setup HTTP Market place and find this as most relevant in this forum I have setup Apache Web Server with a public dir configured as given and is accessible via say, [http://opennebula1/appliances](http://opennebula1/appliances). Apache server is running on same machine as Opennebula so i have skipped BRIDGE\_LIST configuration and all is fine. I can export / download / import image/templates from local opennebula instance If i need to use this market place from another opennebula instance (say opennebula2) - what would be my configuration? do i need to add BRIDGE\_LIST to my first opennebula server where apache market place run for upload ? does it also require passwordless ssh access to opennebula1/market, as i observe it attempts ssh when market is run on different machine? Is it not using http transfer - as we prefer http than ssh? Moreover, i don’t see the apps listed in opennebula2 (created on opennebula1). Does it not enough to just have [http://opennebula1/appliances](http://opennebula1/appliances) access to list apps? And also possibly download / import apps ? Please advise. Your response is very much appreciated Thanks Karthick ---
**Author:** ![DaD](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/dad/32/8466_2.png) [@DaD](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/DaD)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/8 "2021-04-14T14:10:32Z")
So, I’m back at marketplace management since we move forward our solution in that direction. It looks like things have moved to a [simple appmarket service](https://github.com/OpenNebula/appmarket-simple) using [YAML files do describe appliances](https://github.com/OpenNebula/marketplace). Right? ---
**Author:** ![DaD](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forum.opennebula.io/dad/32/8466_2.png) [@DaD](https://forum.opennebula.io/u/DaD)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.opennebula.io/t/usage-of-5-0-market-places-will-http-market-place-replace-appmarket/2611/9 "2021-06-21T13:44:26Z")
I made a simple test of the simple appmarket service and it looks good to me. Now, I need to define a workflow to build the images and export them, I don’t want to use external resources, here is what I’m doing in my tests: 1. Build a VM in OpenNebula 2. Export the disk to an HTTP market 3. Create the YAML describing the appliance, the disk URL point to a reverse proxy to reach the `SOURCE` attribute of the exported applicance 4. Publish the YAML I have two issues: 1. `onemarketapp show XXX` has only an `MD5` checksum, is it possible to calculate the SHA256 checksum to be used in the YAML file 2. the appliance disk is not compressed, is it possible to have the HTTP market store bzip2 compressed files? Thanks.